Depression, can how much sleep you have affect you ?

meeeshel  Hello my lovely, I think you need to get yourself to the docs with all these symptoms as its obviously getting you down. I'm no doctor so by no means take this as a diagnosis, but there is a form of depression where you swing from being ridiculously over happy to really low, it's called bipolar, now I dont know if u have it but it could explain some of your symptoms?

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kayren555  @nextmrstaylor I have suffered from depression since I was 11. I have been to hell and back with it. I have had one breakdown, almost a second one. Sleeping patterns get affected by depression sometimes insomnia other times costant fatigue. I do suggest as @meeeshel does, go back to your gp speak to him and get all the help they can offer you. There is no shame in depression, it is a horrible illness. I hope you get the help you need xxx

caroly  im suffering at the minute with depression, the wedding is nothing to do with it, but im the same as you, i panic if something changes last minute, i scream at the kids and cry over the silliest thing, feel like a lot of pressure builds up and i cant realise it. I went to the gp and she was lovely she gave me some medication and i kno wi wont be on them forever, but they have calmed me down so much, i can finally sleep now and my relationship not just only with the kids but with h2b has improved dramatically, im not saying medication is the aswer as i also see a councilor who i talkj to about absolutley anything thats on my mind and i make a list before i go to sleep so i sont have keep going over things in my mind. at my worst i didnt sleep at all but im more calmer now so ive had a few good night s sleep, i hope you get the help you need chick and if you want to im always here for a chat anytime xx

selby2014  Im also suffering depression at the moment too, n keep breaking down for no reason. And yes it does affect your sleep, I havent had a decent nites sleep in months untill last night, then when i got up today as i didnt have work till 4pm, i slept most of the day... Which is something i never do, i got put on anti depressants a month ago, n i do feel a little more relaxed not much but a little, i think you shoud go to your gp n tell them how your feeling, as it might build up n get to the point when your in a state,, as thats what i did. Got my self in such a state one day that i just wanted to run away n never return.. which at that point i got myself to docs.. Here if you need a hat hun xxxx

sheadpalmer  @nextmrstaylor - I have suffered with depression, and you know I am much better but still have the odd few weeks where it really takes hold again. I was so embarassed to go and talk to someone, as I felt that I was a failure because I wasn't in control of myself or my moods...well it was defo the best decision I have made to date. All I did was go to the docs, we discussed how I felt and how I could possible tackle how feel...they gave me some great advice, and although there was no chance I could see a counsellor (as it was the wrong time of year...!?!) I did go on anti-depressants. As soon as I went on them it changed the way that I thought about things, instead of thinking, for example, "Lee obvioulsy doesn't fancy me anymore that's why he's working all the hours under the sun", It suddenly became clear that it wasn't by choice and it improved our relationship...

There is never just one cause for depression, and the change in the weather has a great effect on people at this time of year, but then so does lack of sleep, and so many other contributing factors.

Know that you are not alone, not ever and there is always someone to talk to, but I would defo say go and speak to your GP...if you don't feel confident enough to do that yet, then go and speak with your nurse...it always helps to get things out in the open, or else they get worse!

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nextmrstaylor  @meeeshel I am thinking of going to the docs, but may leave it for a few weeks and see how it goes, unless things change in the meantime x

@kayren555 i've never really suffered from insomnia (apart from a period of a few months which was at least 12 years ago but that was done to me having really bad exzcema and the itching was keeping me awake though i didnt initaly realise that at the time), I don't really suffer from fatique either, i can get really tired at times but thats down to work as when i work a late one day and then an early the next day i usually am only able to get about 6 hrs sleep at the most. I know theres no shame in depression and hopefully i'll be able to get meself sorted one way or another. Hope your doing ok at the moment yourself xx

@caroly I'm not a big fan of having to take medication if I do need to for depression, if thats what i've got, I know it will help but as I know it takes a few weeks to work I think I might be ok by then, I'd prefer to have counselling but as my h2b says you may also need tablets to help you aswell. And thank you for the offer of having a chat, its always useful to talk to somebody else who is going through something similar xx

@selby2014 I managed to have another really good nights sleep on the 21st aswell, and last night too. I hope your feeling better yourself and thanks for the offer of a chat too xx

@sheadpalmer Its not that I feel like a failure as such but I've not really noticed that much of a change with my moods apart from at that time of the month when there has been a huge change and that has only been the last two times which where a few months apart. But I can go ages in between where I feel normal, it's only been over the past couple of weeks that I've noticed change to my moods that isnt linked into me about to start my period, so i feel like its not really worth me going because it doesent feel like its been going on for that long or they're not that bad. I don't think the weather has a great effect on me especially as I love the winter (even more so if it snows, I love the snow,not for driving in though). I know i'm not alone as I have all the girls here on final stitch to talk to who a no of them are going through similar things, I also have my wonderful hubby to be who is amazing and is completly understanding and who can also tell when my mood has changed (though I can be slightly annoying when im in a bit of a hyper mood). That's daft about it being the wrong time of year about not being able to get to see a counsellar, if it gets to that stage with me im hoping that our occupational health department may be able to help out there (I work in a hospital) xx

I just want to say thank you to all of you who have replied to my discussion it helps that there are others who are going through something similar that I can talk to. I'm going to see how it goes over the next few weeks before deciding about going to the docs. Sorry its took a while to reply to you all but i've been really busy with work over the past few days so when i've come in i've not had much energy to write a decent reply to you all, hope you are all well xx

selby2014  Your very welcome hun, I also think its good to hear from others that r in a similiar situation. Your never alone hun. I wasn't keen on the idea of going on anti depressants but as i was feel down since before the wedding, I new i had t9 do something x

kayren555  @nextmrstaylor I am sure you will get yourself sorted. The first step to recovery is admitting their is a problem and asking for help. You have done that. Let me know how you get on, and if you need any help if I can I will xxx

nextmrstaylor  @kayren555
@selby2014
@sheadpalmer
@caroly
@meeeshel

I've put an update of what happend today at the hospital in the infertility group, here's the link
http://www.finalstitch.co.uk/forum/thread/update-from-nextmrstaylor/
if you can't see because your not in the group, let me know and ill copy and paste it in here, i've not done both as didn't want to repeat meself xx

sheadpalmer  @nextmrstaylor - can't see it!

nextmrstaylor  @sheadpalmer I'll copy and paste it in here, you must have to be a member of the group to even see the link xx

So today we went back to the hospital and actually got to see the consultant, (who I thought we had already seen but unless she has aged about 20 yrs or so and put on a bit of weight then I guess she hasn't lol). She confirmed I do have PCOS (though that was afterwards when we had come out of her room and were talking to the nurse who was giving us some info as I forgot to ask her about it). She didn't seem too concerned when I told her about how the last two time that I've been on that they haven't lasted as long and have been having the mood swings.
We told her what the urologist said about how he thinks the best possibility of us conceiving would be to have IVF, she said before we go down that route, they would like us to try taking Clomifene. I've got to take that on day two of my next period until day 6 of my cycle, I have to do this for six months or six periods with me not being regular, they don't like you doing it for more than 6 cycles as it can have bad effects. I think its meant help boost things and apparrantly its also meant to help regulate me so I should me on more regular. The doctor also advised us to have sex 2-3 times a week at least (i think she said that last bit) but try not to time it so we're more relaxed and also we were advised to be as healthy as we can do exercise etc, all the usual and and dont overdo the alcohol, I don't drink and h2b rarely drinks, he can go weeks without one. When I take the first lot of tablets I've got to have an internal scan on day 12 and then have another 21 day blood test to see if the tablets are working in the way they should be and if need be they can be increased to taking two tablets.
Hopefully these will work but if nothing happens before h2b goes in for his op at the end of dec, dont know how long it will be before we can start trying again. Hopefully the tablets will work, but if nothing happens we will go back to the hospital in 8 months (it's usually 6 but with me being upside down with my periods its going to be a bit longer). I am a little scared of taking the tablets though with what she was saying some of the side effects about feeling sick etc. Though she did say one of the side effects is multiple pregnancies (then explained to us what a multiple pregnancy is i.e twins or triplets, felt like going durrr) and we dont want that she said, I felt like saying if I get pregnant I will take anything I can regardless if its multiple or not, don't think she meant it nastily or anything though. So girls its fingers crossed and plenty of prayers xx

kayren555  @nextmrstaylor everything is crossed for you love. Infertitility is a cruel thing. I wish the best for you xx

sheadpalmer  @nextmrstaylor - This is exactly what happened with me at when I went down this route...I was diagnosed with PCOS after I was going 5-6 weeks without a period sometimes, and natrually trying for a baby at the time, I thought I was pregnant each time...only to be really disappointed to find out that I wasn't...7 times this happened...and then I went to the docs.

Well I went on Chlomifene, and managed to lose some weight too as I was really heavy at the time. I didn't really experience any side effects. And it did bring me nice regular periods too! Good luck to you, and your man. Hopefully it'll work for you like it did for me, I love my little Alfred and thank my lucky stars to have him.

nextmrstaylor  @kayren555 many thanks xx

@sheadpalmer I go anywhere from just over a month to six months inbetween periods (thats only happend the once at the back end of last year). In a way it will be good to be regular somewhat. I guess im just a little scared of some of the side effects, I always over think side effects that they list on medicines and can get a bit panicky, im usually quite reluctant to take even painkillers at times (i've got a slight phobia to do with being sick - im more terrified of morning sickness than the actual birth, thats if I ever manage to get pregnant). As my wonderful hubby to be says it will all be worth it in the end hopefully. And thank you for you good luck wishes and yes you are lucky to have a little boy and Alfred is such a cute name for a little boy xx

gina130284  @nextmrstaylor Yes hun your sleep can be affected by your wellbeing, most definitely. I work with people who suffer with mental health issues including anxiety, stress and depression. This doesnt make me an expert but I can spot the signs and symptoms. A few 'wobblers' doesnt mean you have depression, and particularly if you've noticed a hormonal link with your period.

Sleeping alot if a big sign of depression but generally mosy people who have depression will sleep for long hours and wake feeling no better.

Your best bet is to see your GP and if s/he diagnosos depression ask him what the different treatment options are. Unfortunately many GPs will immediately prescribe medication without offering alternatives such as counselling, support groups and even exercise.

Let us know how you get on xx

gina130284  Sorry hun I didnt read your update further down x x x

nextmrstaylor  @gina130284 I have been feeling a lot better recently, even with coming on this time, I could feel my moods change like being ridiculousy happy and also few times of feeling quite down, but at the down times I managed to hold it together. Though I think this time they havent been as bad as in previous times xx